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All,
I remember that the Swiss Federal Labor Department in Bern has
documents certified by some US Education Evaluation group about the
equivalence between Swiss diplomas and US diplomas, your university
should have a copy.
In my case I had my ETS diploma (from EINEV) recognized as a BS
diploma for admission to Graduate School in the US. I was accepted at
NCState in 1995.
But I had to translate all of the curses' syllabus and have them be
certified by a French professor at the school, provide the transcript
(grades), take the GRE and the TOEFL. All my scores and grades were
excellent so I do not know if the equivalence document played a role
in all that!
Luca
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Subject: swiss-list: Swiss-U.S. diploma equivalence
Author: Laurent Vuilleumier <L_Vuilleumier_at_lbl.gov> at INTERNET
Date: 4/10/99 12:29 PM
Dear Swiss-listers,
There is some effort going on in compiling information about the
equivalence between Swiss and US diploma. The idea is
to have Swiss diploma considered as Masters rather than Bachelor.
Some time ago, a few mails have been sent to the
Swiss-List about this subject. Education Evaluators International
was mentioned, and I already forwarded this information. We
are now interested in knowing if any of you had his Swiss diploma
officially considered as a Master by a research, educational or
private institution. We also would like to know what documentation
was necessary. By the way, it would also be interesting to know
when this was not possible, and why.
Laurent
-- Laurent Vuilleumier e-mail: L_Vuilleumier_at_lbl.gov Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory phone : (510) 486-6108 1 Cyclotron Road, 29C fax : (510) 486-7303 Berkeley, CA 94720 ========================================================================== This message was posted through the Stanford campus mailing list server. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message body of "unsubscribe swiss-list" to majordomo_at_lists.stanford.edu ========================================================================== This message was posted through the Stanford campus mailing list server. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message body of "unsubscribe swiss-list" to majordomo_at_lists.stanford.edu >From Luca_Vassalli_at_ccmail.mxim.com Mon Apr 12 09:06 PDT 1999 X-UIDL: b6b98795486f695c782dc4801300592b Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (root_at_postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by PraetorianGuard.lbl.gov (LBLPSB/SpamKiller) with ESMTP id JAA16479 for <lvuilleu_at_mh1.lbl.gov>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (root_at_localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA21442 for <lvuilleu_at_mh1.lbl.gov>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccmail.mxim.com ([198.145.58.5]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id JAA21388 for <L_Vuilleumier_at_lbl.gov>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccMail by ccmail.mxim.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise) id 000BD361; Mon, 12 Apr 99 09:02:59 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:01:42 -0700 Message-ID: <000BD361.CE21043_at_ccmail.mxim.com> From: Luca_Vassalli_at_ccmail.mxim.com (Luca Vassalli) Subject: Re: swiss-list: Swiss-U.S. diploma equivalence To: swiss-list_at_lists.stanford.edu, Laurent Vuilleumier <L_Vuilleumier_at_lbl.gov> Cc: Walter Gander <gander_at_inf.ethz.ch>, Clarissa Ferraris <Clarissafe_at_aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2198 Status: RO All, I remember that the Swiss Federal Labor Department in Bern has documents certified by some US Education Evaluation group about the equivalence between Swiss diplomas and US diplomas, your university should have a copy. In my case I had my ETS diploma (from EINEV) recognized as a BS diploma for admission to Graduate School in the US. I was accepted at NCState in 1995. But I had to translate all of the curses' syllabus and have them be certified by a French professor at the school, provide the transcript (grades), take the GRE and the TOEFL. All my scores and grades were excellent so I do not know if the equivalence document played a role in all that! Luca ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: swiss-list: Swiss-U.S. diploma equivalence Author: Laurent Vuilleumier <L_Vuilleumier_at_lbl.gov> at INTERNET Date: 4/10/99 12:29 PM Dear Swiss-listers, There is some effort going on in compiling information about the equivalence between Swiss and US diploma. The idea is to have Swiss diploma considered as Masters rather than Bachelor. Some time ago, a few mails have been sent to the Swiss-List about this subject. Education Evaluators International was mentioned, and I already forwarded this information. We are now interested in knowing if any of you had his Swiss diploma officially considered as a Master by a research, educational or private institution. We also would like to know what documentation was necessary. By the way, it would also be interesting to know when this was not possible, and why. Laurent -- Laurent Vuilleumier e-mail: L_Vuilleumier_at_lbl.gov Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory phone : (510) 486-6108 1 Cyclotron Road, 29C fax : (510) 486-7303 Berkeley, CA 94720 ========================================================================== This message was posted through the Stanford campus mailing list server. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message body of "unsubscribe swiss-list" to majordomo_at_lists.stanford.edu >From MWetter_at_lbl.gov Mon Apr 12 09:42 PDT 1999 X-UIDL: fdf2713082f75ec45c5b41e98b7b5c99 Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (root_at_postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by PraetorianGuard.lbl.gov (LBLPSB/SpamKiller) with ESMTP id JAA17592 for <lvuilleu_at_mh1.lbl.gov>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (root_at_localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA05034 for <lvuilleu_at_mh1.lbl.gov>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lbl.gov (r-635.IHouse.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.54.226]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA05030; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371221CC.CFA5367F_at_lbl.gov> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:39:40 -0700 From: Michael Wetter <MWetter_at_lbl.gov> Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laurent Vuilleumier <L_Vuilleumier_at_lbl.gov> CC: swiss-list_at_lists.Stanford.EDU, Walter Gander <gander_at_inf.ethz.ch>, Clarissa Ferraris <Clarissafe_at_aol.com> Subject: Re: swiss-list: Swiss-U.S. diploma equivalence References: <370FA6B1.EC90FDCB_at_lbl.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 2837 Status: RO About the equivalence between HTL diploma and BS degree: The acceptance depends on the individual judgment by the US University. Usually, the acceptance by the department does not cause problem, but the grad schools often do not recognize HTL diploma as equivalent to a BS since the HTL lasts 3 years only. This despite the fact that the total years of school is the same after completion of an HTL or a BS (based on a 4 year apprenticeship). For the admission to a MS/Ph.D. study, all the diploma (including the semester grades) and the syllabus of the HTL study had to be translated to English. It seems like the Universities are not informed how to compare a HTL to a BS degree. In my case, admission to the MS/Ph.D. program has been refused by the grad school because of the 3 years HTL degree by the Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and the Univ. of Wisconsin at Madison (though a professor wanted to hire me and tried to get me admitted at least on probation). No problems caused MIT, Univ. of Colorado at Boulder, and Oklahoma State Univ. at Stillwater. At Univ. of California at Berkeley, the admission was first refused by the grad school. After the department handed in a request for a second evaluation, the grad school admitted me to the Ph.D. program. Michael Laurent Vuilleumier wrote: > Dear Swiss-listers, > > There is some effort going on in compiling information about > the equivalence between Swiss and US diploma. The idea is > to have Swiss diploma considered as Masters rather than > Bachelor. Some time ago, a few mails have been sent to the > Swiss-List about this subject. Education Evaluators International > was mentioned, and I already forwarded this information. We > are now interested in knowing if any of you had his Swiss diploma > officially considered as a Master by a research, educational or > private institution. We also would like to know what documentation > was necessary. By the way, it would also be interesting to know > when this was not possible, and why. > > Laurent > -- > Laurent Vuilleumier e-mail: L_Vuilleumier_at_lbl.gov > Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory phone : (510) 486-6108 > 1 Cyclotron Road, 29C fax : (510) 486-7303 > Berkeley, CA 94720 > > ========================================================================== > This message was posted through the Stanford campus mailing list > server. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the > message body of "unsubscribe swiss-list" to majordomo_at_lists.stanford.edu -- ******************************************** Michael Wetter Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Simulation Research Group Bldg. 90 - Room 3147 Berkeley, CA 94720 email: MWetter_at_lbl.gov phone: (510) 486-7538 fax : (510) 486-4089 http://gundog.lbl.gov ********************************************Received on Mon Apr 12 1999 - 09:05:00 PDT